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karrella
Joined: Aug 19, 2005
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Posted: 2005-Aug-20 06:47
I have just redone my entire webpage in PHP to take advantage of having a navigation menu on my page that can be easily updated. I was having trouble with people getting stuck in my frames as well, which is very bad business.
And so my questions are...
When I put up all my .php pages, what should I do with all the .html coppies that are currently online?
What if people linked to them? I don't want to create more dead ends for people, but I don't want tons of redirect pages floating around either.
I have previously submitted to search engines, will that mess up those links as well?
Any advice, "this is what I dids" or anything would be awesome!
Thanks!
P.S. If you would like to email me for the site link and see the site as it is now and give me any more suggestions that would be great as well! ((email removed))
[ Message was edited by: bhartzer 08/29/2005 02:12 pm ... Reason: removed email address ]
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g1smd
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Posted: 2005-Aug-20 19:35
>> but I don't want tons of redirect pages floating around either. <<
You would only have a "page" if you used a meta refresh statement on the old page, the old page would have ONLY the meta refresh, no other content at all.
But you should avoid doing that completely. If you instead set up the redirects as instructions in the .htaccess file, you can get that to take care of the redirect handling and completely delete all of the old pages. Use a 301 redirect from .htm to .php.
Another alternative is to set up the server so that all pages that end in .htm or .html are treated as PHP pages, but that will slow your server down a little.
Finally, the long term solution would have been to have every page of the site as an index page in a folder, linking only to the folder name with a trailing / on the end of the URL. Changing the pages from index.html to be index.php would be transparent to all users and bots as a call for http://www.domain.com/folder/ would simply get the server to find the index file - whatever it is actually called - and just serve it.
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karrella
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Posted: 2005-Aug-21 03:24
Thanks g1smd!
About your final suggestion, would that work with just the web address and no folder, such as, www.domain.com
Since its not on my server, do I have access to the .htaccess file? The second suggestion you said does sound like the most productive way to handle this.
One final question, do you think it was unwise to change the whole site over to php?
Thanks
[ Message was edited by: bhartzer 08/29/2005 02:13 pm ]
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karrella
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Posted: 2005-Aug-26 00:04
Wow that did it for sure!
I used a 301 redirect and have found a good explaination as well that I will share along with my own.
First off here is a great link www.tamingthebeast.net/articles3/spiders-301-redirect.htm
And now for my example, all you have to do is open up notpad or a similar program and make a .txt file called htaccess
In the file put the following line of code for each page you want to redirect;
redirect 301 /old/old.htm h**p://www.you.com/new.htm
Upload the file with your ftp program and rename the file .htaccess
A few notes: Only use the subdirectory and filename for the old site, you cannot use http://www. on the start it will not work. As well make sure you file online is just called .htaccess with no after extension.
Hope this helps someone =)
[ Message was edited by: bhartzer 08/29/2005 02:13 pm ]
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g1smd
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Posted: 2005-Aug-26 06:44
There is another way to do it, using just three lines of code to redirect ALL requests using the same pattern, instead of one line per file.
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lizardz
Joined: Nov 12, 2004
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Posted: 2005-Aug-26 09:51
Of course, what you should really do is not rename your files at all, which will break all the backlinks to your site, and just add this single line to your .htaccess file:
AddType application/x-httpd-php .htm .html
and your .html pages will run as happy as can be in php mode. The alleged slowdown is not visible, I've never seen it, the only times I can see any server lag at all is when the page runs a few pages of scripting before being built, and even then it's pretty much not noticeable. With dual processor 2.6 + gigahertz servers more and more the norm, this type of issue just isn't an issue anymore, hasn't been for a few years at least.
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dirty_shame
Joined: Aug 28, 2005
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Posted: 2005-Aug-28 09:37
Add this:
Sometimes, it helps to put the source in your .htaccess file preceding the statement lizardz recommends. So you might put>
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php3 .php4 .phpz
AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
AddType application/x-httpd-php .htm .html
...if you know where the source file is for your PHP.
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