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Cheery Ragdoll
Joined: Oct 30, 2003
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Posted: 2003-Oct-31 03:20
Hi,
I was just wondering if Googlebot crawls the whole page or if it stops after a certain number of bytes?
If it does stop crawling after a certain number of bytes (say 40,000) if I have an image at the top of my page that is 40,000 bytes in file size, will Google on ly use that useless information in my ranking and not use any of my keywords in text below?
Any info would be appreciated.
Cheers!
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atozcom
Joined: Eons Ago
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Posted: 2003-Oct-31 03:30
It suppose to crawl the entire page. Anyway, it suppose to...
Google would have no idea and do not determine if any information is useless or not. Useful or Useless info is not part of the Google algorithsm. It determines if your text is relevant to the keyword search.
The "weight" of text, whatever it is, decreases as it locate further down on the page.
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Forever
Joined: Jun 05, 2002
# Posts: 143
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Posted: 2003-Oct-31 03:54
Actually I believe I read somewhere, maybe even on google itself, about it reading the first 100k. Or it may have been pointing to that that, about pages not being more than 100k. Either way, 100k
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Cheery Ragdoll
Joined: Oct 30, 2003
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Posted: 2003-Oct-31 03:57
Thats what I thought, Forever. If it only reads a certain amount of the page, then those with large images at the top will not get a good ranking even though they may have great keyword density and relevancy, along with great link popularity. But all of that is not helpful since the Googlebot may not reach it all to get that info.
i am just trying to figure out if this is the case.
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Forever
Joined: Jun 05, 2002
# Posts: 143
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Posted: 2003-Oct-31 04:00
I might be incorrect here, but I dont think images count, as the crawler looks at it strictly text based. If you have large images anyway, you should find a way to reduce the size, ulead photo imact is great for this, we use this for all our pictures, and they dont affect the image quality at all.
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Cheery Ragdoll
Joined: Oct 30, 2003
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Posted: 2003-Oct-31 04:03
I actually thnk you might be right about it only crawling text, Forever.
One other question, do you know what the optimum keyword density should roughly be?
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Forever
Joined: Jun 05, 2002
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Posted: 2003-Oct-31 04:04
Honestly, I have seen it different for differ keywords. I would do a dendity check on say top 10 in the keywords you are looking for and find a nice happy medium.
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chad
Joined: Nov 20, 2003
# Posts: 199
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Posted: 2003-Oct-31 10:55
Well I have a few sites some with ridiculously sized pages like 300-500Kb & 500+ links (NOT including images obviously, just html) and they all seem to get crawled without any probs and the pages linked from them do too. So listening to other people saying about 100kb pages being the maximum, i guess i must just be lucky!
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JustMe
Joined: Oct 30, 2003
# Posts: 12
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Posted: 2003-Oct-31 15:55
Search for your pages on Google and
you will notice that it mentiones
page size as about 100k...rest is
ignored...
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Mike-Levin.com
Joined: Sep 27, 2000
# Posts: 1988
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Posted: 2003-Nov-24 04:01
I just ran an experiment. Google cut off at 102,507 bytes. It's a nice measure to keep their spider speedy and limit link lists.
This means if you're keeping bookmarks or link lists, you should limit it to about 250 links. That is a VERY ROUGH estimate. It will vary based on content.
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g1smd
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Joined: Jul 28, 2002
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Posted: 2003-Nov-24 19:30
>> If it does stop crawling after a certain number of bytes (say 40,000) if I have an image at the top of my page that is 40,000 bytes in file size, will Google on ly use that useless information in my ranking and not use any of my keywords in text below? <<
Images are in separate files so would not be crawled. It therefore makes sense to also get all your CSS and javascript out into external files too.
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Cheery Ragdoll
Joined: Oct 30, 2003
# Posts: 79
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Posted: 2003-Nov-25 03:04
Thanks g1smd! You have just hit the nail on the head for me! I have been looking at the page as a whole, not just the .html file which is all they spider. Everything is so much clearer now (As it should have been ages ago, heheheh).
And thankyou everyone else!:D
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Cheery Ragdoll
Joined: Oct 30, 2003
# Posts: 79
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Posted: 2003-Nov-25 03:12
Actually, would any of you guys be able to have a look at my website (see profile) and let me know how I have gone in terms of optimizing it? I dont have any links coming from outside of my site, but I am working on it.
Any thoughts?
If it was not appropriate to ask this question in this thread, I apologize.
Cheers
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HORSE
Joined: Mar 04, 2002
# Posts: 72
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Posted: 2003-Dec-05 19:02
Hi Cheery Ragdoll
one thing for sure, the spider will have to stop sometime. But it can be for any reason. It has a set amount of algo to read, the spider could stop because of broken code, link etc...
If you want the whole page to be spidered, it good but make all the most important keywords, terms at the first paragraph and add some relevant search terms at the bottom but dont have too high hopes.
I have a basic search term that only a few aim for then i have not added a space between words so when you type in lochalshhotels my site is no1 and the search term is at the bottom of page.
i also come up for 'edinburghhotels' in google at no 18 at that is a 49k page and the search term is at the bottom of page.
Hope my reply helps and no confuse you!
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