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beno
Joined: Mar 12, 2004
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Posted: 03/12/2004 03:34 am
Hi;
I'm having trouble getting Google to notice that I have 7 inbound links. They only see one. I've submitted the pages linking to my site and waited a couple of weeks with no success.
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Please guide this neophyte.
TIA,
beno
[ Message was edited by: JimBot 03/12/2004 09:47 am ]
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Logan
Joined: Aug 14, 2002
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Posted: 03/12/2004 05:14 am
welcome beno!!
first, it takes time ... often longer than a couple weeks. To be safe, set your expectations to be around 60-90 days.
second, google doesn't show all back links. For instance they filter many out of the search - in particular pages with a PR3 or lower. The backlinks search is not 100% of all backlinks. a backlink can count towards (help) your ranking even if it doesn't show in the backlink search.
I usually use other search engines (not 100% accurate as their index is not the same as google) ... such as alltheweb. additionally you can use tools like MarketLeap's link tool http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/
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beno
Joined: Mar 12, 2004
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Posted: 03/12/2004 01:53 pm
Thank you for your help. Questions:
* Does submitting the page of the person linking to me help?
* Do pages with <=PR3 help?
* Can you recommend a good HowTo on link building?
TIA,
beno
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bhartzer
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Posted: 03/12/2004 02:03 pm
It's been several weeks since Google updated backlinks, so even if you know the links are there don't be surprised if Google knows about them and just isn't showing you that he knows.
Submitting the page of the person linking to you doesn't help, that page will eventually be crawled and you will get credit for the link to you.
Pages that have a higher PR are typically shown, but I wouldn't get too obsessed over higher-PR pages. I would concentrate on getting relevant links/topical links for your users.
I would start with looking at the sites that link to your competitors and see if you can get a link from sites that link to them.
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beno
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Posted: 03/13/2004 03:29 am
Thank you. This is what I have been doing. I have 7 links to my site and it's been, I believe, about 60 days. Yet only one of them shows up in Google and I only have a PR of 2 
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g1smd
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Joined: Jul 28, 2002
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Posted: 03/13/2004 12:43 pm
Last year, I had a site at #1 in 35 000 results when it was only a PR 1.
PR isn't everything.
Now that it is a PR 6 it hasn't gone any higher in the results 
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beno
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Posted: 03/15/2004 01:03 am
If it's not too big a question to ask, do what do you attribute your success?
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g1smd
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Posted: 03/15/2004 05:33 am
Clean, well-formed, valid HTML code. That is, all of the content is marked up as headings, paragraphs, lists, tables, and forms ("semantic" markup?). It uses CSS for all styling, and the CSS is located in external files. There is very little javascript, and all of that is in external files too. The <title>, meta description, headings, and alt attributes, are used exactly as they should be. The on-page content has keywords scattered throughout it, whilst still being very "human friendly". Each page has a specific topic. The site only has about 50 incoming links to the index page, a dozen to other selected pages, and a few dozen (from trade directories) to the contact page. The incoming links are mostly from on-topic, popular, authorative sites, and each external site has donated only one link on one (or two) page(s). Some of those sites have hundreds of thousands of pages. Each page of the site has the main section navigation on it, in plain HTML code, and every page of the site also links via the company logo (as a clickable link, with alt text) back to http://www.domain.com/ in that form. The email addres is written out using javascript to hide it from spiders, and there is a contact form for people who cannot be bothered to fire up their email program, or who are perhaps using a public termainal (there are a lot of people who do that because the business is in a tourist area).
There is no keyword stuffing, no hidden text, no tag typos, no code bloat, no alt text stuffing, no 1-pixel images, no dodgy markup (inline headings, etc). It has clean code, and content, is very human readable, and is spider-friendly too. The log files are inspected every few months in order to see what words and phrases searchers used to find the site, and then thought is given to try to find more related words on which some new content could be added to pull more people in with. We do NOT watch PR. It was PR0 for 4 or 5 months, briefly PR2, and is now a 5 or 6 I think (last checked at Christmas). I have never used a "keyword density" tool, just rely on it reading right for humans. A few trade directories have listed it, and they bring in some traffic too. There is no reliance on just Google; but in the last few weeks Yahoo has provided slightly more traffic than Google. Six months ago, nothing came from Yahoo to speak of.
Umm, the "secret" of success?
No secret; just "doing it right".
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beno
Joined: Mar 12, 2004
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Posted: 04/13/2004 05:40 pm
I just discovered this response. Thank you! I hope I'm "doing it right" too, and time will tell 
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g1smd
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Posted: 04/14/2004 02:05 pm
Thanks for replying.
I was disappointed that having wrote that long response, that no-one initially came back with more comments or questions. I had no idea that anyone had actually read it until now!
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