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RagingBull
Joined: Mar 24, 2001
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Posted: 2001-Mar-27 19:00
A bit of a rough question but what programmes do you use? I've just got Dreamweaver 4 and Fireworks 4 I think they're pretty good but are there any other programmes you would recommend.
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Ex
Joined: Feb 02, 2001
# Posts: 121
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Posted: 2001-Feb-08 22:37
I've recently came across a few sites that usually pop out exit ads to Clickheretofind.com and with some searching, found that AllClicks.com are the one sending traffic over to this web portal.Looking at it, All Clicks deemed that any clicks (12 hour/per unique IP) from any links are deemed usable. Looking at this point, ain't it a bit weird to trick your visitors into clicking a very interesting link only to find him/her going into a webportal? Unless of course, you do a clickheretofind more link. But judging from the advice from its page, even links that point to like Click here to go to next gallery or next page, this makes it sounds a little weird. If this is an old rant, sorry, I just came across and is very interested in such a different advertising company. Weird but don't know if this is an acceptable form of sending clickthrus.
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excell
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Joined: Mar 19, 2001
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Posted: 2001-Mar-27 23:58
I suggest using notepad so you learn how to handcode HTML.It's a great way to start a web design career. That way you will know what you are doing when you use a WYSIWYG editor
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Czar
Joined: Jan 07, 2001
# Posts: 177
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Posted: 2001-Feb-12 01:08
This is called 'blind linking', and is used mainly by those sites/networks who feel that the low cost of these click-thrus justifies the low-quality of traffic.AllClicks has been around for over a year now. I must admit, I had my doubts about whether or not they would survive in the early days, but Standard Internet (the company that runs AllClicks, SearchTraffic, PopupTraffic and others) has grown to become one of the most trustworthy (and financially secure) ad brokers around. Oh, and ClickHereToFind is actually a property of SI. The only other blind link agency that I'm aware of is TrashTraffic.com, which also accepts adult sites into its network.
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Sinoed
Joined: Dec 11, 2000
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Posted: 2001-Mar-28 02:42
What sort of things are you doing with your programs? I'd recommend a couple of different programs based on what you want to accomplish.. In other words, what are your goals? General web design? Graphic design? Dynamic pages?
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SSacobie
Joined: Feb 08, 2000
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Posted: 2001-Feb-12 01:17
You basically need to weigh the negative against the positive and see if it's acceptable.
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RagingBull
Joined: Mar 24, 2001
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Posted: 2001-Mar-28 16:59
"I suggest using notepad so you learn how to handcode HTML."I'm not that thick. I do already know html and javascript properly. As if I would get dreamweaver without knowing html and what's a WYSIWYG editor?
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Ex
Joined: Feb 02, 2001
# Posts: 121
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Posted: 2001-Feb-12 07:00
Hmm..sounds interesting. Ok..again, I was looking through the AllClicks terms and conditions page and found that certain traffic and accounts from Malaysia are barred from their program. Why is it so?Argh..its just too bad that I'm in Malaysia..else I would love to send around 10k unique a day @ 50% load, it;ll be around 5k x 0.03 = US$150 a day!! WOW...I must be dreaming. Anyhow, can the owner of AllClicks reply or accept sites like mine from a banned country into the network. Would he consider? The site's in the profile too.
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bhartzer
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Joined: Jun 08, 2000
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Posted: 2001-Mar-28 17:19
"WSYWIG" stands for What You See Is What You Get. That's pretty much most of the website editors out there, those that don't require you to know html code to put a page together. The idea is that the application automatically "codes" for you (like DreamWeaver, MS FrontPage, Homesite, etc. does).Other than what you've got, it all pretty much depends on what you want to do with your site. I would, however, add Adobe Illustrator or Adobe Photoshop, along with Fireworks. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses, depending on what you need to do. You might also consider an image optimization program (if you don't want to do it in Photoshop). In some cases, I've got some folders with a lot of images in them that I use to make photo galleries for one of my sites. So, I run the image optimization program using the 'batch' feature to resize all the photos or manipulate them in other ways such as add a copyright notice to the bottom of each photo. I also like 'search and replace 98', which allows you to change multiple lines in html files at once. This comes in very handy when a url or link changes. Or when you want to remove a certain advertiser from all your pages. It's freeware. Of course, you have to add a good FTP program to your arsenal, but you probably already have one. Another thing that I have that is very useful is not necessarily one application. I have, installed on my PC, a copy of just about every single browser out there. When I'm through making a change or adding to a site, I check the page in most of the different browsers to see how the page displays. I've got about 4-5 versions of Netscape and 4-5 versions of Internet Explorer. Also, copies of some of the other browsers that are available, as well.
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SSacobie
Joined: Feb 08, 2000
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Posted: 2001-Feb-12 13:47
They deem traffic from those countries as useless (even though they will accept it). Furthermore, my guess is that your numbers are way above what you'll actually be making (read: it is a dream). I think it sounds like a greater deal than it really is. Anyway, you more likely than not would not be accepted.
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baffled
Joined: Jul 12, 1999
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Posted: 2001-Mar-29 08:28
You can acomplish any HTML tasks with Dreamweaver and Notepad, so you're pretty well covered there. Be sure to seek out third party extensions for DW -- some of the best ones aren't on MM's site.Again, it would help to know what kinds of things you want to do. I don't have Fireworks, but I understand its pretty good. Photoshop is a big $ outlay for another graphics program...you may want to consider Paint Shop Pro as your second image editor. Flash is always a consideration, but a lot of $ if you don't really have a use for it.
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Prowler
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Joined: Aug 14, 2000
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Posted: 2001-Mar-30 03:22
If you don't want to plomp for Flash,at least now,try Swish - a much cheaper,but very useful application which can do wonders for creating amazing effects in Shockwave format.For all the text effects,we use Swish instead of Flash as it involves less work.You might consider adding to your armoury of tools - Super Notetab,Textpad or Editplus. These nifty text editors are highly useful for editing HTML,JavaScript,ASP or Perl.
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DianeV
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Posted: 2001-Mar-30 03:47
By the way, HomeSite is a text-type editor and doesn't really write your code for you. It does try to write the closing tags (if you set it that way) but the main beauties of the program are that it's color-coded rather than the blindingly blocky look of NotePad, and you can store snippets of code and assign them to various keys for faster coding. Result: faster hand-coding. I am considering going half-and-half with Dreamweaver. Since you can "lock down" the layout in Dreamweaver, it might be nice to be able to write the contents in a wysiwyg.
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WinningWays
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Posted: 2001-Mar-30 17:58
I use HomeSite for the bulk of my coding needs, and for things like rollovers, then I'll use Dreamweaver because it's easier. HomeSite is great!
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matti
Joined: Mar 23, 2001
# Posts: 55
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Posted: 2001-Mar-31 05:12
Graphics in Fireworks 4, design and layout in Dreamweaver and then I use Homesite to write / add the contents. Homesite has great search & replace functions, too. You can easily modify hundreds of files in just a couple of seconds. I agree with the previous speaker, Homesite is great. 
[This message has been edited by matti (edited 03-30-2001).]
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DianeV
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Posted: 2001-Mar-30 20:07
I am very curious to see what Macromedia does with HomeSite (Macromedia recently bought Allaire). If DreamWeaver's internal text editor were HomeSite ...
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baffled
Joined: Jul 12, 1999
# Posts: 2311
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Posted: 2001-Mar-30 21:15
You know, I've never been able to get DW's internal editor to work right (it blanks out chunks of code as soon as click in the box). I've always had to launch my external editor (arachnophilia) to change source code. Not sure if DW4 performs better.
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OAC
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Joined: Jan 25, 2001
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Posted: 2001-Mar-31 18:19
"If DreamWeaver's internal text editor were HomeSite "Diane, it was with version 3 (if you installed it) but it was a pain to use. Although I am far from an expert, I would suggest that DW was the problem. Homesite was included with the software with V3. DW4 vastly improved the way HTML was displayed but they didn't include Homesite with version 4 so I don't know whether it works better or not.
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Tom Horn
Joined: Jan 19, 2001
# Posts: 111
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Posted: 2001-Mar-31 13:21
Many of the CF/Homesite programmers are concerned about product development post-merger.Talk is mostly about CF, especially CFStudio. But I'm concerned that too much Dreamweaver and/or Flash will be added to Homesite. If you like Homesite (and who could not like HS compared to the other products?), I suggest you buy HS4.5 now. Cost is $89. Your can try an evaluation version for free at http://www.allaire.com/products/HomeSite Tom Horn Manager, RV ColdFusion Users Group
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JQ
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Joined: Mar 11, 2001
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Posted: 2001-Apr-08 00:14
I like GoLive as my WYSIWYG. Granted, one does need to know some raw html to be able to tweak stuff, but if *design* rather than *coding* is your bag, why not avail yourself of the convenience?I started out with a personal site about radio controlled cars about five years ago... before there *were* any WYSIWYGs. I hand coded monthly racing schedules into complex tables using SimpleText, the Mac's equivalent of NotePad. Hated it! I bought PageMill 1.0 when it came out and never looked back. Also use Photoshop extensively, since my sites have lots of pics. I like the ProJPEG plug-in from BoxTop (I believe) for being able to see what effect compression will have on image quality and file size prior to saving. Not a "program" but one of the most useful tools in my arsenal is my 6x9" Wacom graphics tablet. I can't imagine trying to use a mouse in Photoshop or Illustrator these days. If you do a lot of graphics work, you will really appreciate a tablet. And Fetch for ftp. It works just fine.
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