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apageor2
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Posted: 2006-Sep-14 22:52
I got an email sent to me from one of the ezines that I subscribe to that was written about this topic and was curious to know what others here know about these types of sites and have done them.
What I'm wondering about is it was making a point to get RSS feeds (a good amount of them) and have a blog going. Now I'm just starting to get into blogs - not that up on them just yet; they never have been my thing for some reason, I guess I don't see the point in having one on the web site. *shrug*
Anyway. The other thing that was mentioned was how when you set up this web site you then break down the topics into sub domains. Does this sound familiar to anyone? One of the examples that was used in this ezine was for diabetes. Like you have the main site diabetes.com then the subdomains can be things like diabetes.supplies.com; diabetes.recipes.com, etc.
Apparently it went on to say things like this authority site can over 100 plus pages or something, can't remember the figure. But the more information on it the better. The point that this article was trying to make was something regarding the smaller web companies trying to stay with the bigger ones. That's where I'm getting confused.
Is this something that I should be worried about and should really consider or is it another "do what works for you" type of thing? I'm trying to understand this issue that's why I ask.
Has anyone here actually done this kind of site and if so, how did you do it? I mean, how difficult was it pull details together before it went live?
So many questions... 
Any help that can be provided is greatly appreciated.
Sue
[ Message was edited by: apageor2 09/14/2006 03:05 pm ]
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oldwelshguy
Joined: Aug 01, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Sep-14 23:30
Hi apageor2 , welcome to SEF.
There is a lot wrong with that article, the most glaring of which is that if diabetes.com is your domain, then subdomains have to take the format of subdomain.diabetes.com anothersubdomain.diabetes.com. You can have recipes.diabetes.com , but not diabetese.recipes.com, as that is a subdomain of recipies.com.
Secondly Authority site status has nothing to do with how many pages a site has. I will try to explain where this comes from.
Search engines like Google use what is known as clustering technology, that is the cluster sites, into social network groups, based on phrases and links. So lets say there are 5000 pages/sites in that cluster. When you analyse the amount of links to sites within the cluster the top site might have say 3000 links to it from within that cluster. This would make that site the authority site within that cluster on that topic.
As well as this they calculate how many of the pages within that cluster the sites link to. The site that links to the most pages within that cluster will be seen as the hub site. It is often common to see the same site be the hub, and the authority site.
My advice to you is forget this spammy notion of subdomains, and go with sub folders, like diabetes.com/recipes/ that will bring all your content under the one domain and will ensure the site is seen as solid. 100 subdomains is seen as 100 sites, while 100 subfolders wil be seen as a site with 100 specific areas of expertise within a larger topic.
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apageor2
Joined: Apr 27, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Sep-15 00:01
Thanks for the reply. I'll get a little more indepth, the example site I gave, that's not mine. That was the site that had been mentioned in the article. I remember reading somewhere on here that you couldn't do any advertising so I didn't want to get in trouble and saying where I saw the article or post the article in it's entirety here. *grin* Trying to do everything right and mind my p's and q's. 
I see what you're saying about the sub folders. I didn't realize I was doing it until you mentioned it but I did make a breast cancer awareness site similar if not exact to what you're referring to. For example, I have state support groups listed off of the top domain name (ex. www.breastcancerrx.com/support/support-alaska.html, etc) and there's also a clinic listing for the state as well in another folder so I suppose that is a good set up then right?
But tell me this, as long as they stay within the top domain, Google and all other top search engines won't have difficulty in finding them correct? I'm assuming not.
So with this article that's in question, I would assume it is best to push it to the side and keep going with what will/does work to keep your web site in the spot light. I think I'm beginning to figure this out.
Thanks for the explination and feedback!
Sue
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oldwelshguy
Joined: Aug 01, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Sep-15 08:17
No problem Sue. to clarify
subdomains are seen as different domains for backlinks etc, but DO carry an association with the main domain. the golden rule is 'if the theme of the content is the same, then use sub folders'.
You are dead right with regard spidering, the spiders will not see the sub domains from your main domains, and even when they do, they will treat it as a separate domain that will need to go through the 'new site' process of spidering. Folders and pages within the main domain ie domain.com/subject1/althepages here will be added to the index as they are part of the existing site, not a new one.
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flyingrose
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Posted: 2006-Oct-29 00:34
oldwelshguy thank you so much for posting your clear explanations of clustering, sub-domains, and sub-folders.
As an Internet power user I've never liked sub-domains because they make it difficult for me to find what I know is somewhere on a site. Where I could break down and use IE and the Google site search, when there are multiple sub-domains if I don't know what they all are and which one to search I can't get back to what I know is there somewhere.
I've listened to exceptional SEO folks debating whether a blog should be at blog.domain.com or domain.com/blog and even after trying to clarify the advantages and disadvantages had no more clear idea which is more desirable after that discussion than I had before it started.
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