zurax
Joined: Eons Ago
# Posts: 20
|
Posted: 2004-Aug-18 04:31
I have been hearing iWeb Hyperseek/Jackhammer is the best to run a PPC site with but I notice its written in PERL. How is this better than a script written in PHP? Every PERL/CGI script I have run usually takes up a lot of resources....
|
 |
openxs
Joined: May 03, 2004
# Posts: 177
|
Posted: 2004-Aug-22 07:04
There're two version of HyperSeek I believe.
PHP and Perl. You can choose either of them, but you'd choose a php version I suppose 
|
|
zurax
Joined: Eons Ago
# Posts: 20
|
Posted: 2004-Aug-22 19:17
Really.. I dunno which..... If they could guarantee the Perl one was better/faster.. I would go with it.
|
|
seekaroo
Joined: May 28, 2004
# Posts: 8
|
Posted: 2004-Aug-23 15:37
It used to be all cgi but basically only the admin program for Hyperseek/Jackhammer is cgi these days... all of the front end stuff is php. We use Hyperseek/Jackhammer on one of our sites and it is very solid.
Dave
|
|
zurax
Joined: Eons Ago
# Posts: 20
|
Posted: 2004-Aug-23 20:18
What I like is that you can add new feeds as you wish. But from looking at the demo I wouldnt have a clue LOL
|
|
Richard B
Joined: Apr 03, 2000
# Posts: 446
|
Posted: 2004-Aug-23 22:47
There are about 10 feeds already setup for you. All you have to do is signup with the search engine and add the affiliate code. Simple. For those that you need to set up, you should get documentation from the feed and the url to their XML. The xml will give you the information you need to set up the feed on your side. Jackhammer has a bit of a learning curve but well worth it if you are serious.
|
|
zurax
Joined: Eons Ago
# Posts: 20
|
Posted: 2004-Aug-23 22:54
Well right now I cant afford the $xxxx for it so...
Was just tired of people telling me I should switch... so I had a look... seen the admin was Perl... played around a bit with the demo... It looks great but I cantr afford it plus I am kinda put off with the perl aspect....
To be honest I am having a hard time picking up affiliates. If I was to get JH I may try and come up with a nitch search site... But most of the ones I can think up already have a few dozen search sites dedicated to them...
|
|
echan
Joined: May 03, 2004
# Posts: 13
|
Posted: 2004-Aug-24 01:35
i recently purchased hyperseek/jackhammer and there is a learning curve, but the software is solid. I finally have it setup and functional, there are so good features in it, but i've found good features in each of the scripts i use. I'll keep everyone informed as to how i make out.
|
|
jcokos
Staff
Joined: Eons Ago
# Posts: 143
|
Posted: 2004-Aug-26 10:27
Just to clarify ....
The backend (the admin center that you run Hyperseek from) is currently written in Perl.
The Front End (the actual search engine, and the advetisers bidding area) is all written in PHP
We are working on a 100% php version of the admin center, for those that want it.
The reasons for having the admin center in perl boil down to a few major items:
- Perl is much better than PHP at insane, long running, hardcore number crunching. Many of the reports that are essential to running the search engine (accounting, financials, fraud analysis, etc) are simply better and faster when perl is the core. It just does a better job. PHP is great for quick-hitting, fast running process, like a search, but not so great for gnarly reports.
- Most importantly, there are elements of Hyperseek that run from the command line, either manually, or using cron. There is a good percentage of hosting companies and servers that simply do not allow PHP's to execute from a command prompt, and therefore, these very important tasks are not able to be run in cron, or manually from a command line. For this reason, some of the system will always need to be written in perl.
- The admin center is the most important aspect of the system, so keeping it portable is essential. The admin, which is currently all perl, runs equally well on Linux, Macintosh, and Windows servers. The front end, which is all PHP runs best on Linux, slightly slower on Mac, and abysmally on windows, due to the way that windows runs PHP. We are working on an ASP/.NET front end for the windows crowd, which means that we can distribute the same core set of "perfect" admin center to all users (which minimizes the support and bug fixing that we have to do), and at the same time, offer the right front-end for our customers server.
Hope that clarifies the make up of the system, and the reasoning. Features aside, the biggest benifet with Jackhammer, is that we set it up to run happily on a shared server, but in such a way that it'll grow with you as you make your millions and move into advanced server clusters, with multiple database backend machines, and balanced www servers .... all without having to change your setup, or the code itself.
I'm John Cokos, and I approved this message.
|
|
zurax
Joined: Eons Ago
# Posts: 20
|
Posted: 2004-Aug-26 11:35
Wow thanks! A very professional reply and now I understand everything. 
Wish I had the money to go with JackHammer 
|
|
gomvents
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
# Posts: 21
|
Posted: 2004-Sep-04 02:05
I think I reconize some of you guys in here, SmartPPC friends!
|
|
zurax
Joined: Eons Ago
# Posts: 20
|
Posted: 2004-Sep-04 05:17
Yeah :P
|
|
pneeman
Joined: Mar 10, 2005
# Posts: 1
|
Posted: 2005-Mar-11 00:41
I wouldn't recommend this product. I had to clean up an implementation. The code is poor -- the template system worse. Support was abusive at times. Surf around -- you'll find other negative reviews.
|
|
Czar
Joined: Jan 07, 2001
# Posts: 177
|
Posted: 2005-Apr-20 07:20
Is Hyperseek/Jackhammer still benig actively supported and developed?
We're interested in implementing a high-end solution on a new regionally-based search product, but require a system that is not only robust and scalable, but supported well by its developers.
Will Hyperseek/Jackhammer fit the bill?
|
|
jcokos
Staff
Joined: Eons Ago
# Posts: 143
|
Posted: 2005-Apr-20 09:22
Yes. In fact, we're dong a major re-release in the next 2 weeks or so. New pricing options, new website .... the whole kit and kaboodle.
Best to contact me directly to discuss your exact needs (PM is fine to start, and then I'll give you "real" contact information)
|
|
thinkbot
Joined: Apr 10, 2005
# Posts: 9
|
Posted: 2005-May-02 10:15
why demo of hyperseek doesn't work ?
|
|
ik23000
Joined: Apr 25, 2005
# Posts: 3
|
Posted: 2005-May-02 18:34
I think Demo was shut down because of abuse
|
|
jcokos
Staff
Joined: Eons Ago
# Posts: 143
|
Posted: 2005-May-03 05:02
Yeah, people were loading it up with porn and pop-ups faster than I could keep up with it.
What I've done, with the new release (probably tomorrow) is to make a downloadable, installable demo version. This way, you can test it till your hearts content, on your own server.
|
|
ik23000
Joined: Apr 25, 2005
# Posts: 3
|
Posted: 2005-May-03 16:40
Yep, Thats an excellent idea
|
|
zurax
Joined: Eons Ago
# Posts: 20
|
Posted: 2005-May-03 17:45
Will Jack Hammer ever have ads like Adsense even if they are by keyword in the code and not a bot visiting the page?
|
|
Inbox
