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wfbopt
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Posted: 2003-Aug-22 03:22
Our dynamic site is linked to from a number of other sites but Google, and therefore most search engines, do not record these links in their database. The sites that link to us are listed. Our site is listed. But Google does not report that any sites link to us. Our site is dynamic so the page is generated once the visitor requests the address, this is my only guess as to why these links are not indexed. I'm confused though, because our address is indexed. What can be done? Any suggestions are appreciated.
~Dave
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Debs13676
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Posted: 2003-Aug-22 03:35
You have ID in the dynamic url and Google in particular won't accept an url with ID in it ... they are afraid they will get caught in a loop.
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wfbopt
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Posted: 2003-Aug-22 19:16
What can be done? Any ideas?
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Prowler
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Joined: Aug 14, 2000
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Posted: 2003-Aug-22 21:39
I could see some 59 pages of yours indexed by the Google as here: http://www.google.com/search?q=www.wholesalefurniturebrokers.com+site:wholesalefurniturebrokers.com&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=0
I am afraid there is no easy solution for you as your site refers to a mile long URL. You would need to consider making programmatic change to reduce this URL size. You need to find a way of reducing dependency on session_ids.
BTW, do you need to have this at the beginning itself ? ...furniture/servlet/FurnitureServlet?action=Search&searchType=browse&home=true&searchString=&matches=3&categoryId=62
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wfbopt
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Posted: 2003-Aug-22 22:22
I do realize that our URLs could cross the Mississippi, although I do not know how the programming works. I am the marketer so my tech knowledge is limited.
Would creating subdomains, (Ex. Sale.WholesaleFurnitureBrokers.com) that point directly to the specific page we want listed, help?
I am still curious as to why Google will index our pages, but not the direct links from other pages to ours.
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zmagaw
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Posted: 2003-Aug-28 19:15
I would have to disagree with not having ID in your URL... I have found URLs in Google with ID in them. I think it has to do more with the text of that is returned from a URL being different the second time it is clicked.
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Teresha Aird
Joined: Feb 14, 2000
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Posted: 2003-Aug-28 20:34
Although there are some instances in which Google has indexed session based URL's, for the most part all engines steer clear of them for the reason that has been stated: they are afraid of being caught in a never ending loop.
There is a possibility that session based URL's will be indexed but you are taking an awfully big chance, especially if there are several variables, not just one.
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Teresha Aird
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Posted: 2003-Aug-28 20:37
(duplicate post - cat stood on the laptop - sorry)
[ Message was edited by: Teresha Aird 08/28/2003 12:35 pm ]
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Ron Carnell
Joined: May 15, 2001
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Posted: 2003-Aug-29 02:49
Am I missing something? Or has the program been recently changed maybe? I followed Prowler's link and saw nothing in those URL's to suggest a session ID.
As to the original question, it's entirely possible that Google *is* indexing your backlinks, Dave. In fact, I'd almost guarantee they are. I clicked on your Home link, which goes to a static page, and very briefly saw a PR of 1 displayed. You wouldn't have a PR if there weren't links to your site being counted. The PR display was very brief because that static page immediately redirected me to a dynamic page. That page had PR 0 and no backlinks listed. Even that doesn't prove much, however, because Google does NOT generally list backlinks with too low a PR. They count, but aren't listed.
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wfbopt
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Posted: 2003-Aug-29 20:45
So would it be better to get sites that link to us to link to our domain at our static page that redirects to our main site?
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zmagaw
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Posted: 2003-Oct-06 15:23
Google has not been built to undestand what a Session ID is (different application servers - due to different programming styles of programmers have different querystring attributes for to keep sessions alive)... it has been built to follow urls... if the text returned from a url is different (i.e. an invalid session response) the url will not be indexed... the other issue I have noticed with the site I work on.. I see google does not follow links that have numeric querystring attribute values and the complete url (sans http://) cannot be over 100 characters...
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