beth_lk
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Posted: 2005-May-26 04:02
I own several web sites and am wondering can I link from one of my sites to a nother site?
Like say at a weight loss type site can I post a link over to my web site that has articles posted on it about weight loss?
Are there any specific rules/guidelines about linking to your own sites from you other sites?
Much Appreciated,
Beth 
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bhartzer
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Posted: 2005-May-26 16:05
Sure, you can link to them--there's nothing stopping you. However, your site will be penalized and it won't rank anywhere for anything in the search engines.
So, if you link to your own sites then you should use the rel=nofollow attribute in the links. Otherwise, you will have ranking problems.
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JakeJeck
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Posted: 2005-May-26 21:50
Sure, you can link to them--there's nothing stopping you. However, your site will be penalized and it won't rank anywhere for anything in the search engines.
Say what?
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bhartzer
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Posted: 2005-May-26 22:05
JakeJeck, Google penalizes if you link your sites together. Other search engines are more forgiving.
I've been dealing with this problem lately and perfectly legitimate sites were being penalized--they didn't show up for anything whatsoever (even an entire sentence). I was able to find some linking from one site to another site owned by the same person. Once the linking was removed completely the sites came back and started to rank well.
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smogcity2000
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Posted: 2005-May-26 23:12
So are link exchanges bad to do?
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beth_lk
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Posted: 2005-May-27 01:38
bhartzer - thanks for the heads up on this one ! It is greatly appreciated
Beth
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newsphinx
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Posted: 2005-May-27 11:04
Bhartzer. I think that linking to one's own sites is just fine. There are many network sites linking to each other. But how you link your sites may result in very differently.
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bhartzer
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Posted: 2005-May-27 16:45
smogcity2000, I don't do link exchanges anymore. You might be able to get by with it if the other site is completely on-topic, but personally I see no need for it. Of course, there are extreme examples that might not fit into it, such as companies who are Partners--and in that case it's not a home-page-to-home-page reciprocal link.
newsphinx, some sites get away with some links because they have so many links that it doesn't really matter much. It is my belief that the more links you have the more those types of links they're "overlooked".
For the average small-business site or site that's not a "major player" (e.g., sites that have only a few hundred links), links to other sites you own (or links to other sites on the same IP or in the same class C block) matter more (it's easier to get penalized for it).
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packffill
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Posted: 2005-May-27 18:25
What about linking all your sub-pages to your Homepage? Is this good or bad for SEO?
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bhartzer
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Posted: 2005-May-27 19:01
packffill, that's fine. Interior linking is just fine--and encouraged. Linking all of your sub-pages to your home page and all of the other relevant sub-pages in your site is good for SEO and for your website's visitors.
We're mainly talking about owning two websites on two different domains--and linking them together.
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wibblemaster
Joined: May 27, 2005
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Posted: 2005-May-27 21:23
I cannot see that there is a problem linking from one domain you own to another as I honestly believe that the search engines cannot even consider to penalizing based on ip blocks etc...
What if two sites, owned by different people but hosted in a virtual server environment and sharing the same ip were to link to each other???
That just wouldn't be fair would it?? and it is definately likely to happen more and more with ip sharing.
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bhartzer
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Posted: 2005-May-27 21:34
wibblemaster, linking one domain you own to another domain you own is completely different than if two sites, owned by different people but hosted in a virtual server environment and sharing the same ip were to link to each other.
The chances of two domains being hosted on the same IP address and honestly linking to each other because they're on-topic is extremely slim. It just doesn't happen.
Even if I sign up for hosting with a web host one day and then sign up again for hosting the next day with a new site I am not going to be assigned the same IP address. Most likely I won't be on the same server.
Google, in particular, has been penalizing for same-IP address and same-class-C-block linking since at least 2000-2001. Now they're officially a domain registrar, which makes it extremely easy for them to know all the sites you own.
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packffill
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Posted: 2005-May-27 23:06
bhartzer,
This actually happens a lot more than you may think. Say for example I am a web template/designer that creates creates and hosts websites for a lot of different people within a chosen occupation. Say, lawyers. I have 1000 lawyers all with there own websites, who dont know each other all being hosted by me. I then put a spot on my website so they can contact and reciprical link each other for referals.........This would be bad??
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bhartzer
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Posted: 2005-May-27 23:25
packffill, reciprocal linking is just not a good thing to do nowadays. It's just not worth it.
I personally think you're wasting your time by setting that up. With lawyers, in particular, they're not going to link to other lawyers. They're very funny about doing that. Lawyers and businesses generally don't do a lot of reciprocal linking. When was the last time you saw Microsoft trade links with Google? Or any of the websites listed in the top 1000 at Alexa.com do any reciprocal links?
There's a lot of other ways to get links to a website that are much more effective than trading links with someone. Besides, it is my belief that reciprocal linking will soon be considered spam by the search engines.
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packffill
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Posted: 2005-May-27 23:48
There's a lot of other ways to get links to a website that are much more effective than trading links with someone. Besides, it is my belief that reciprocal linking will soon be considered spam by the search engines
I do not do this, it was just a hypothetical question. However, I did not know that recip links were not valuable. Can you give me a hint on the best 3 ways to get inbound links then? If there is a topic alrady established on this feel free to direct me....
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beth_lk
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Posted: 2005-May-28 04:23
My original question has taken a turn I see - so now I ask this:
So in general ( forget my original question ) exchanging links with other subject related sites is "bad" ?
example..... my joke site links to other jokes sites and they to my joke site = this is not good?
Beth
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packffill
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Posted: 2005-May-28 07:11
....or if I am a lawyer that specializes in corporate law, but get a lot of hits for other types of law, such as tax law. Is it bad to ask a tax lawyer to exchange links with me, so people going to his site looking for corporate law will come to me and people coming to my site looking for tax law will go to him?
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smogcity2000
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Posted: 2005-May-28 19:07
bhartzer, you say linking websites together owned by the same person is not good, are you saying google or whatever engine does whois lookups to check and see who owns the sites that link together?
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Prestige
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Posted: 2005-Jun-09 12:24
I believe they do, as apart of their algo.
They also do a C class check, And who knows what more.
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blackwidow
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Posted: 2005-Jun-10 09:39
I won't count on it Prestige because I know some sites who gets away with the practice of linking all of their owned sites with each other and it seems google hasn't yet been able to trace this.
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